Thursday, November 12, 2009

What the Bible Says Wk 2 - Genesis, Nature, and Sodom

Is there a difference in Original and Natural?

We are called to Rightly Divide the Word of Truth –
2 Timothy 2:15
Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.

Original is defined as –
belonging or pertaining to the origin or beginning of something, or to
a thing at its beginning.

Genesis Story of Adam and Eve
Genesis 2 – creation of Adam and Eve
• Helpmeets
• Naked
• Affirms need for relationship.
• To use as evidence of Sinfulness of gay/lesbian relationships
would also have to admit the sinfulness of those not married.
• God had introduced all creation before to see if there would
be a connection.
• Eve created because Adam was lonely, not for procreation.
• Original formulation is no longer valid as sin and brokenness
has entered the world.
• Actually, two creation stories.

Natural is defined as –
being such by nature; born such or in conformity with the ordinary
course of nature; not unusual or exceptional.

Nature in the Greek is Physis and is used to speak of what is normal.
The physin part which was translated to mean “natural” can actually have numerous meanings. Paul himself used this word to describe several different subject matters including: Jews by birth, those who are physically uncircumcised and those who instinctively do what the law requires.

Additionally, the same word, physin, is used to say that “beings by nature (physei) are not gods,” and in Paul’s question “Does not nature (physis) itself teach you that if a man wears long hair, it is degrading to him?”

2 Peter 1:4
Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature and escape the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.

Ephesians 2:3
All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our sinful nature and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature objects of wrath.

Galatians 2:15
We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles

Romans 2:14
Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things
required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law,

These passages show God using Paul to speak of what is normal for Jews, Gentiles and such. This is not a “natural law” in the sense that modern individuals would think. This is not going “organic,” or back to the original state of the world. This is concept is the concept of being true to who you are rather than being something you are not.

Romans 11:21
For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.

Romans 11:24
After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and
contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much
more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own
olive tree!

The last passage here of Romans 11:24 shows God acting
“contrary to nature,” in bringing the gentiles into the fold of faith.

Without this acting contrary to his original covenants gentiles
would not be included in the covenant of faith as Paul speak and
tries to bring two different communities with different “natures”
together.

Sodom and Gomorrah.
Genesis 19:1-5
The two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them, and bowed down with his face to the ground. 2He said, ‘Please, my lords, turn aside to your servant’s house and spend the night, and wash your feet; then you can rise early and go on your way.’ They said, ‘No; we will spend the night in the square.’ 3But he urged them strongly; so they turned aside to him and entered his house; and he made them a feast, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate. 4But before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both young and old, all the people to the last man, surrounded the
house; 5and they called to Lot, ‘Where are the men who came to you
tonight? Bring them out to us, so that we may know them.’

• What are the chances 100% of the men were Gay.
• Angels are not human so this would be bestiality if sexual.
• Rape and sacred sex – supposed to bring superhuman powers.
• Yadha appears some 943 times in a nonsexual way. 10 times in a sexual way.
• Word that Gay sexual practice was Shakhabh. Mishkabh appears in Scripture and is used to refer to same sex practice.

Other Scripture says this:
Jeremiah 23:14
And among the prophets of Jerusalem I have seen something horrible: They commit adultery and live a lie. They strengthen the hands of evildoers, so that no one turns from his wickedness. They are all like Sodom to me; the people of Jerusalem are like Gomorrah."

Ezekiel 16:49-50
'Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

Matthew 10:14-15
If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town. I tell you the truth, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.

Jude 1:7 implies sex with something besides humans.


Home Work: Find the difference between these two words in Hebrew and Greek. You will find two columns for the Hebrew. They can both be found in searches, depending on the source.
The Greek is the Septuagint – the ancient Greek translation of the Jewish Scriptures.

Anglized
Hebrew Hebrew Greek
1. tow`ebah Toevah bdelygma
2. zimah Zimmah Anomia

Tuesday, November 3, 2009

What Does the Bible Say? Notes Week 1

What does the Bible say about?

We are called to Rightly Divide the Word of Truth –

2 Timothy 2:15

Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.

Voting –

Nothing Explicitly:

Matthew 22:21

"Then give Caesar what is his, and give God what is his."

1 Timothy 2:1-3

The first thing I want you to do is pray. Pray every way you know how, for everyone you know. Pray especially for rulers and their governments to rule well so we can be quietly about our business of living simply, in humble contemplation. This is the way our Savior God wants us to live.

Drinking –

Ecclesiastes 9:7

Seize life! Eat bread with gusto,
Drink wine with a robust heart.
Oh yes—God takes pleasure in your pleasure!

Amos 9:14

I'll make everything right again for my people Israel:

"They'll rebuild their ruined cities.
They'll plant vineyards and drink good wine.
They'll work their gardens and eat fresh vegetables.


Proverbs 23:29-35

Who are the people who are always crying the blues?
Who do you know who reeks of self-pity?
Who keeps getting beat up for no reason at all?
Whose eyes are bleary and bloodshot?
It's those who spend the night with a bottle,
for whom drinking is serious business.
Don't judge wine by its label,
or its bouquet, or its full-bodied flavor.
Judge it rather by the hangover it leaves you with—
the splitting headache, the queasy stomach.
Do you really prefer seeing double,
with your speech all slurred,
Reeling and seasick,
drunk as a sailor?
"They hit me," you'll say, "but it didn't hurt;
they beat on me, but I didn't feel a thing.
When I'm sober enough to manage it,
bring me another drink!"

1 Corinthians 6:12

Just because something is technically legal doesn't mean that it's spiritually appropriate. If I went around doing whatever I thought I could get by with, I'd be a slave to my whims.

Dating –

Nothing!

2 Corinthians 6:14-15

Don't become partners with those who reject God. How can you make a partnership out of right and wrong? That's not partnership; that's war. Is light best friends with dark? Does Christ go strolling with the Devil? Do trust and mistrust hold hands?


Sex Before Marriage –

Nothing!

Ephesians 5:31

And this is why a man leaves father and mother and cherishes his wife. No longer two, they become "one flesh."

Patriotism –

Nothing specific, but!

Nehemiah 1:4

When I heard this, I sat down and wept. I mourned for days, fasting and praying before the God-of-Heaven.

Philippians 3:20

We're citizens of high heaven! We're waiting the arrival of the Savior, the Master, Jesus Christ

Money –

LOTS!

Luke 16:11

Jesus went on to make these comments:

If you're honest in small things,
you'll be honest in big things;
If you're a crook in small things,
you'll be a crook in big things.
If you're not honest in small jobs,
who will put you in charge of the store?
No worker can serve two bosses:
He'll either hate the first and love the second
Or adore the first and despise the second.
You can't serve both God and the Bank.


2. Proverbs 21:20 "Valuables are safe in a wise person's home;
fools put it all out for yard sales.“

2. Proverbs 21:20 "In the house of the wise are stores of choice food and oil, but a foolish man devours all he has."

Rebellious Children–

Enough

Deuteronomy 21: 18 – 21

When a man has a stubborn son, a real rebel who won't do a thing his mother and father tell him, and even though they discipline him he still won't obey, his father and mother shall forcibly bring him before the leaders at the city gate and say to the city fathers, "This son of ours is a stubborn rebel; he won't listen to a thing we say. He's a glutton and a drunk."

Then all the men of the town are to throw rocks at him until he's dead. You will have purged the evil pollution from among you. All Israel will hear what's happened and be in awe.

Words and The Bible:

  • Must look at the entire record to know what God means in all passages.
  • There are 700,000 words in Greek, but only 5393 appear in the New Testament.
  • There are 14,564 unique English Words in the Bible with English having over 1 Million Words.
  • God would have used the words available rather than making up something new.
  • Our interpretation has often been limited by our thinking that only the Biblical record could shed light on what is being said. When in fact, the biblical record is a subset of the words that were available – and is in fact, less than 1 percent of the words available to the writers of the Bible.


Original is defined as –

belonging or pertaining to the origin or beginning of something, or to a thing at its beginning.

Natural is defined as –

being such by nature; born such or in conformity with the ordinary course of nature; not unusual or exceptional.

Home work:

Find the use of the Word Nature in Scripture.

Hint look up the Greek word – Physis.

Where does God act Para Physis in the Bible and why?